How do you make your money decisions?

Do you talk with your spouse about money? I do, but I know it is not necessarily the norm. I am what you might call a money freak. Even so, I have relaxed over the past year. I am maybe now more of just a fiend rather than a freak. Growing up without many things has made me keenly aware of where I spend my money, and yet, that only matters if Chris and I are on the same page about money.

We were not always on the same page. It is something that has evolved over time. The evolution has happened because we talk. We talk about most purchases. Some of you might say that is a bit over the top, and yes it might be. Regardless of whether it is extreme, it works for us. There is no ill will about what either of us has purchased because we both agreed on it before dropping the credit card. You might ask, “Do you talk about every single purchase?” The answer is no. For the most part we do not talk about the normal everyday purchase, like grocery items, but we do talk about most purchases over $100. It means there is no resentment, and it is easy. It is as simple as sending each other a text if we want to make a larger purchase. If the other is not sure, we wait until we can have a regular conversation.

Why does it work? It works because we have a few rules, and it is grounded on a sense of respect for the other individual and their opinion. We have shared finances, so we believe that we have a shared stake in the decisions on how we spend that shared money. One of the first rules we have is that we do not spend outside our means. If we cannot afford it, we do not make the purchase. It would have to be an emergency for us to spend outside our means. I strongly believe that if you buy only what you can afford, you will have a lot less stress in your life, and if you take that stand you will feel more like you, then living outside of who you are. The result of living within what we can afford, means not living off of our credit cards. Whatever we charge must be paid in full when the bill arrives. It feels more honest and true to who we are, when you can actually pay for your purchase.

This is what works for us. It is in no way a judgement for how others make their money decisions. I found this older LearnVest post about how a couple handles their money decisions. I liked this line:

“Because of our open running dialogue about our finances, we never argue about money, unlike most couples.”

It is true. Honesty with open communication means little to no arguments about money. It does not mean that the conversations are always easy, but it does mean you are connected about how you want to live your life, spend your money, and engage in the world together.

What works for you?

*UPDATE* Wow. I am in a bit of shock. In full transparency, everything I just wrote about apparently happens only 99% of the time. In the time it took me to write this post, my husband strayed from our agreed-upon protocol for the first time in over 10 years and made a large purchase without discussing the final details together first. Although the purchase was made with the best of intentions, he knew better and got an earful from me. No, not because I’m a hard-ass and felt the urge to raise my voice, but because he should have had a simple, open dialogue about it first, come to an agreement, and then dropped the cash. #stilllearningtogether #patienceplease

A 7 Year Car Loan?

I saw this recent article about how having a car loan for 7 years. I like the poll at the end of the article: “Would you pay $1,600 more over a seven-year period to get a 50% lower monthly payment now?” The chart shows that for a 3 year loan you would pay $588 a month, and for a 7 year loan it would be $271 a month. The seven-year loan means that you are only paying an additional $1600 in interest. I am never one to pay interest if I do not have to, but it is nice to know that you could have a more affordable payment for a longer term.

The question that they bring up at the end, which I think is also worth thinking about, is if you wanted to sell your car in 5 years, and had a 7 year loan, then likely you will owe more than the car is worth. That is definitely something to think about and research. I like that it is possible in their more financial tight times. Having said that, I like it with one caveat. If the car you are purchasing is to ritzy and expensive that you have to go for the 7 year loan. To me then it is not worth it. If you are stretching yourself for the visibility of a luxury car, then you should buy a less expensive car.

I guess it depends on how you choose to spend your money, your interest rate, how long you drive your car (in years), how long you drive your car each day, and your thoughts on putting your income into your car. Suze Orman would tell you to get rid of the car payment completely. She would likely say if you are making less on the money you are putting away (separate from 401ks, 403bs, and IRAs) than you are paying for a car loan, then pay off your car loan. If you can make more on the money you invest than the car loan interest rate, then keep your car loan. Look to where you make more for your money.

What do you think?

Separate Finances? Shared Finances?

I was inspired by this article: “Separate Money Sane Marriage,” and it leads me to ask a question for those of you that might read this blog post. Separate finances vs. Shared finances? What are the pros and cons? I have resisted from doing a google search for everything the experts say. Partly because I think that the experts will be on both sides, and honestly I think that it is different for each couple or partnership. What works for one might not work for another.

I lean on the side of shared finances. I say that because it has worked for us. Maybe it is because of our communication style to talk about everything, including our finances. Maybe it is because when we got married we were broke, in debt, and we worked together to get out of debt, pay off credit cards, and student loans. It evolved into the idea for every facet of our lives: “What is yours is mine, what is mine is yours.” There are ebbs and flows when things we decide for Chris are more expensive or vice versa. That is part of marriage, part of life.

I can respect those that keep their finances separate, but I want to understand more about why. I know for some they might get married when they are older, and just prefer to continue to live their financial life as they have throughout the years. Why do others make that choice? What are the pros and cons?

I am curious to hear what you think! Feel free to leave a comment with your thoughts.

What is your money pledge?

Thank you, again, LearnVest. I have blogged before about LearnVest. This week one of their email newsletters mentioned the LearnVest pledge. While I really have no desire to participate in their LearnVest pledge, I do appreciate what they are trying to do. I guess I am not really into things like this that is sponsored by a massive corporation. Since LearnVest is doing it in connection with Chase, it makes me want to run the other way. Having said that, I love the idea of the LV pledge, and I do appreciate the pledge they have put together:

“I pledge to live my richest life, take control of my money, and be a source of support & inspiration for others striving for financial freedom.”

What would your money pledge be? I continue to work on my own money issues. I grew up poor for many years of my life, and spent a lot of time with my grandma. She grew up during the Depression so had quite a Depression mentality in regards to money. Spending so much time with her, and living with her for a few years, I think I took on some of her financial tendencies. When you grow up poor, and constantly watched your parents fight to just put food on the table, keep the electricity on, and the phone in service, it creates a feeling of lack. I am not sure I ever felt there was much of a surplus growing up. When I went to college and then began working after college, I still was often in debt. Whether it was credit card debt to pay for unexpected expenses, in addition to car and student loans, it often was hard to feel like there was ever extra that I could devote to an emergency fund or even to splurge for once.

Today I constantly look at purchases and money decisions in a way that would make you think I live in poverty. I am hard-core about how we spend our money and I think that is my way of trying to make sure I never end up in the situation I was in when I was young. So maybe I overcompensate for my past. Chris often has to get me to see that the decisions we are making are good, progressive, and that we can afford it. It is like he constantly has to bring me into the present. Based on my history with money and my Depression mentality, my money pledge would be more in the lines of:

“I pledge to free myself of the chains I feel around money. I can feel liberated while also making smart choices. As I let go of my past tendencies I hope to inspire and help others who also care about their financial future.”

What is your money pledge? Feel free to share in the comments section of this post if you feel so inclined!